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Tony Sikich
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November 2, 2018 8:18 pm  

How about a place to discuss the terrible Canadian refs...did anyone else get hosed? Post your stories from World's here.

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ddbremer
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November 6, 2018 9:33 am  

Without going into too much detail, I noticed some obvious reffing bias on multiple occasions. The last thing any player, fan, tournament director, or hosting organizations should want is the refs directly effecting the outcome of a game. I hope the IFBA, and all other hosting bodies can make the necessary changes to have unbiased refs on the ice in the future.


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Rodney Olson
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November 6, 2018 12:55 pm  

I didn't see the play or game your talking about but I will be 100% honest with you, I got to know a lot of those refs this past week and they could careless who wins each game. They go out there and call what they see.  It's know different from the NHL every ref has a different view of each game.  Sometimes we focus on the one thing that everyone hates and that the refs because its the easy way out instead of looking into ourselves and see what we caused for this to happen. I look for refs every year and find nobody that wants to do it because if they make a mistake there harassed and yelled at because they lost the game for one team or the other when the bottom line is we don't really care who wins. If you have a better way for me or any other RIC to train guys I would love to have you get ahold of me because we don't want to be the ones that lose games every tournament for teams as we are told by some teams and players. I know nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes and that goes for players that make bad plays and goalies that let in bad goals. I love the game of broomball and that's why I stay in the game and Ref but would love to hear what we can do better to make people stop blaming the refs only.

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Rodney Olson

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Wyatt Stanton
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November 7, 2018 8:20 am  

I'm pretty sure you are referring to the play in OT against Ottawa.

I'll preface everything by saying that you and Pete are unbelievable players but, I'm extremely confused as to why there would be complaints about that call. In a semi-final game, of the world tournament, in overtime, against the best team in the world, why didn't you just go get the ball in the corner? I get it, the Ottawa guy ran the goalie/hit him high but with the ref standing right there what is he supposed to do when you give the Ottawa guy the business?

That being said, I don't think there is bias or that the refs are bad, IFBA or USA. They're not exactly making thousands of dollars to ref games. They are going to make mistakes and calls are going to be missed but too many other things happen in a game for the result to hinge on just officiating.

On a more positive note, thought it was a good showing all around for American teams. We were a goal away from an all-American men's final and a goal away from an American men's and women's champion.


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ddbremer
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November 7, 2018 8:45 am  

I completely understand how difficult the job of a referee is. I also completely understand how frustrating it is to hear players complain, and place all the blame on the refs. Referees rarely get the respect they deserve, and I believe they are doing the best job that they can. The sport would not be where it is with out all the referees donating their time. Thank you for this!

To clarify the bias I viewed; It was refs making what appeared to be inconstant calls in the favor of their home country. This may have been my own bias. It may have been coincidence. However,  the solution I would like to see in the future for international play is having refs from a neutral country calling the game. I understand this has its hurdles as well. But it would help if we can make this possible.

Again, thank you to the reffing staff and everyone that made worlds a success. I hope we can continue to make improvements to continue to grow this sport that we all love.


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ScottH
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November 12, 2018 1:45 pm  

The Ottawa / Kelly Lake game should had been decided by the players, not the ref.  Unfortunately that call decided the game and it was a shame because up until that point, it was a fantastic game to watch.


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Tony Sikich
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December 3, 2018 2:37 pm  

Wyatt - just saw you response.  There were a couple of minor calls missed both ways, but the big one I'm talking about is the hit on Pete earlier in the game.  It was late and directly to his head so it should've been at least a minor penalty, maybe a major, and kind of threw us off for a portion of the game after that.

As for the call in overtime, I didn't see where the ball went right away and was tied up with the Ottawa player, who was also tied up with my brother.  When I saw where the ball was I tried to get free so I could go get the ball....I've definitely given guys worse "business" that didn't get called 😉  I was shocked he called that.  With the contact/high stick I honestly thought he was calling penalties on both of us.

I agree with your comments about the refs, mistakes are going to happen and calls are going to be missed, but I heard a lot of "I didn't see it" from IFBA refs on missed calls that happened where the ball was.  Just ask Street about the high stick he took and the hilarious explanation he got from the ref.

I also agree with your positive thoughts.  It was an impressive showing by the American teams.  Congrats on your guys' run!


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PSW
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December 21, 2018 1:44 am  

If Pete didn't stab people with his stick when they were on the ice maybe you would get some calls.


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Tony Sikich
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December 21, 2018 8:19 am  

Haha...nice try, but I don't think that's it.  I don't think he's the only one doing that.  I've been poked/slashed behind the play many times and those teams still seem to get calls.

PSW - maybe you should post your name instead of hiding behind an acronym so you can post your comments anonymously....

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